WebI have badgers at one site and never had any problems from them and one entrance is 1 ft in front of a hive. I heard the comment once that most badgers seen on roads are ones that have been shot illegally, or poisoned with Paracetamol, 1 tablet will kill a badger so I'm told. Bourne was unwisely influenced by third parties with their vested interests - the badger groups. Never had a problem with the active hives but did find an empty nuc box with some old frames in that I forgot to put in my car ripped to pieces. organism is identified, This badger welfare cost has to be balanced against the quantifiable cost-man power and financial, the efficiency of the methods selected, together with the non quantifiable and the welfare of the cattle and human, who are directly involved. the majority will be beef herds and Conrad shooting him is about as quick as it gets bud. The sole aim must be to initially control the insidious spread of TB in the cattle, then to reduce the level. Co / Durham / Co Cleveland and Northumberland. The problem with badgers is that, being such a powerful beast they don't go short of food, so bait won't work. How much weight do we give the latest ISG report? Although years ago the Medical Profession were warned that TB is endemic in the some cattle populations, why do they not culture their suspect TB patients for bTB? Around 200m packets of it are sold annually, accounting for two-thirds of the UK market for over-the-counter painkillers. Our troops were sent to Iraq to be shot at and blown up, on a whim, which has resulted in the slaughter of hundreds and thousands of men women and children; yet there is a reluctance to sanction a cull of some badgers suffering with their TB, which would seriously improve the over all situation. Breakdowns virtually always coincide with badger activity. infective ability as a cell from a clinical There would also be some immigration of badgers; on what basis did the ISG make their culling%? Recently, badgers have like foxes, become urbanised. Therefore, these prevalence values are likely to be under-estimates. Update your browser to view this website correctly. I assume that these sows were the badgers that were trapped and released in the report? A total % of badgers culled was then established. tigger1946@fsmail.net, Hide The sooner the use of carbon We do not want a badger with TB on school property! Whilst, most attention has been focussed on the welfare of badgers to be culled, minimal consideration has been given to the welfare of the farmers their families or their cattle. The ISG did not, just like Bateson with his deer report, have their report peer reviewed. It may have a use for fine tuning, but it certainly has no place, while there is a reservoir of infection in the badgers. 5. I understand that Defra have now requested that the ISGs work is peer reviewed, with the reviewers uniquely, having access to all the raw data. Krebs had too many anomalies and weaknesses in the strategy for it to be successful. It is counter productive. budget. Paracetamol is the workhorse painkiller. It is widely viewed as cheap, safe and effective. A practical, successful and rapid Instead of a blanket policy - one system suits all, every infected herd should be unique. Not all badger populations in Great Britain have been tested for bovine tuberculosis (bTB). WebIt would be difficult to restrict the availability of paracetamol, and educating the public about the effects of an overdose would be more appropriate. Defra are already virtually bankrupt and morally deficient. Defra in their wisdom have disbanded their Wild Life dept.- the very group that having been involved in the Krebs trial, would know more than anyone the badger sett sites etc. M.R.C.V.S. available. Mobile | Badgers waive their territorial rights for a feed of maize, whether in the field, in the clamp or in the cattle feed trough. on the ground for years. Any policy of vaccination must be off the agenda. In those days a six foot wide boundary fence was sufficient to prevent the spread of TB to/ from the neighbours cattle. The whole procedure, to be successful, must be repetitive for several years. Surely having received 3,000,000 funding to research vaccinating badgers against TB he has a serious vested interest in there being no badger cull? I consider my panel to be well enough qualified, so we can take it that it has now been peer reviewed. The inevitable increase in the numbers of reactors found post the foot and mouth (F+M) 2001 catastrophe has been deliberately misinterpreted by the ISG to demonstrate that cattle to cattle transmission of TB is rife. The Krebs trial as implemented by the ISG was a disaster. There must be an overall Committee of knowledgeable people, sufficiently strong to resist the inevitable political interference, with a small committee (of one?) samples or in throat If PCR cannot be 6 comments, bad spelling pisses me off as do crap replies to intelligent posts, peter ambler Bourne- just like Bateson- typically has his own interpretation, with no respect for the recognised system of scientific accountability. Discover who represents you, how theyve voted and what theyve said in debates simply and clearly. Trapping details were even posted on the web. 4. Until the ISGs final report has been properly peer reviewed, there is insufficient evidence for a lay person to make a decision. There is very management programme. There must be an extensive public propaganda campaign to inform and educate them of the true scenario, countering the pseudo propaganda of the badger groups However, in spite of all its failings, it did confirm that infected badgers do transmit their TB to cattle. During one of the formal ISG open meetings, he and the Chairman was on Christian name terms with members of the badger group. Many GPs are starting to take this more nuanced approach to the use of paracetamol. In their final report the definition isone or more cattle reacting to the tuberculin test. The Minister is probably now aware the third obstacle and fortunately the important for disease reduction as time The only beneficiaries from yet another failed cull will be the egos of the badger groups; they would then claim that It is not our badgers! However, this is increasingly being questioned by scientists, who say that taking it over prolonged periods can have serious side-effects. When only a cull of TB infected badgers can result in a healthy badger population what are their motives for opposing one? Its as if you take too long and Tripp decides to kill him right then and there. It would also be a major logistical nightmare for those farmers, particularly if they are drip feeding cattle in onto the farm. A sub lethal dose would result in the complete recovery of the individual. He arrogantly maintained that since the report contained references to previous papers/reports it was not necessary. It results in many, many more cattle being slaughtered unnecessarily. testing and may do so again. organism. extolled: people who, for a fee, will 5. So frustrated was he that, he voluntarily submitted a 12 point observation document on the conduct of the trial to EFRAC. approval for the use of the smoky This factor would certainly have skewed the trial results; out of ignorance probably, or being less generous deliberately? may be a good time to offer clarification information overload is Culling has to be on going, not for a few days mid winter, when badger activity is minimal, as in the Krebs trial. In fact there is so much historical evidence that infected badgers are responsible for transmission of TB to cattle there was no justification for having the Krebs trial at all. 5. Gassing the setts, during the day when the nocturnal badgers are curled up asleep, with either carbon monoxide - fumes from a petrol engine or with carbon dioxide using dry ice. In the UK, in draft guidelines issued in 2013, the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (Nice) advised GPs that they should no longer prescribe paracetamol for osteoarthritis, suggesting it had limited benefit and highlighting links of higher doses to cardiovascular, gastrointestinal and renal problems. When EFRAC titled their report Badgers and cattle TB: the final report of the Independent Scientific Group on Cattle TB only an optimist could expect some original thinking. Initially badger numbers were guesstimated from the evidence of badger activity, prior to the commencement of the trial. Paracetamol rose to prominence during the 1960s in the wake of fears that aspirin and other non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as ibuprofen could cause gastric bleeding, ulcers and other serious side-effects. Carbon monoxide severely damages the blood of the victim. Some of these herds could be exempt. The granting of licences to individuals or groups, must not happen, since it would invite interference by the badger group bigots. In all species, stress and The ISG have recommended, endorsed by EFRAC, more frequent testing for problem herds - every 3 weeks. Release Calendar Top 250 Movies Most Popular Movies Browse Movies by Genre Top Box Office Showtimes & Tickets Movie News India Movie Spotlight. He deliberately deceived the National Trust into banning deer hunting on their properties. Poisoning with paracetamol. in the field.. Paracetamol (500g Capsules): No more than two capsules every 4-6 hours, with a maximum of 8 in the space of 24 hours. 2. It has only further muddied the waters already contaminated by the Independent Scientific Groups (ISG) report. WebThe number of paracetamol tablets (500 mg/tablet) were ingested between 10-90 tablets. in local areas, the sooner a resolution to Now, however, Dr Martin Johnson of the RCGP says the status quo that drives GPs to prescribe prolonged use of paracetamol for millions of these patients no longer makes sense. THE WAY FORWARD He has no evidence to substantiate this claim. The trial had far too many flaws in it to be trusted to produce meaningful evidence. keith wicks other species is not yet easy to separate. Thought that was Aspirin or is that for cats?????? The decision must be an incisive clinical one, not one of consensus. Teenagers are killing badgers for TikTok clout, charities warn. environmental noise may be overcome. A low level of M. bovis could be residual For safety reasons, there must be a back stop of a bank etc to stop the bullet should it miss the target. deciding what is M. bovis as an animal This certainly applies to the pseudo-science in the ISGs final report. Seemed to work, he walked better after a dose and he Please Email kingkeith567@hotmail.co.uk for more details, Tartan Giant Publicise this info as widley as you can mate, and don't let the odd spelling mistake and troll dickheads posting shit on indymedia put you off spreading a worthwhile message. All the previous culls, which unlike the Krebs trial were all efficient, could not be technically classified as scientific trials, because they had no comparative controls. (foot-and-mouth comes to mind as the Already I know that where the badger population has declined, for what ever reason, that there has been a significant reduction in the level of TB in cattle. Registration 3568194 VAT No. In such cases, perhaps it makes sense for patients to take a greater role in managing their own treatment, working with medical professionals to find out what works for them. Movies. may be effective for herds that are The ISG, being occupants of ivory towers, had insufficient knowledge themselves on TB/Cattle/ badgers to understand the problems involved in the field. Their only original input is that the compensation valuations of reactor cattle should be revisited. Farmers and their families, are not only suffering financial hardship, but emotional stress, which cannot be quantified. Like pre movement testing, it would like the pre movement testing not be cost effective. They have cleverly cultivated contacts with those in authority and orchestrated a very successful pseudo-propaganda campaign, to mislead the public. Rifle shooting at any time is dangerous, more so at night, when there is very limited visibility, with the bullet capable of travelling 2 miles. Mission | In spite of handling dangerous material TB, BSE etc for decades with out incidence, the Veterinary Investigation Labs had to stop examining badgers for years whilst their Labs were modernised. Blood levels of paracetamol were 0.12-8.3 gm/L at 72-2 hours which did not correlate significantly with oral doses. Who is everyone? He either did not want to comprehend or it was just not convenient to do so. No cattle must be tested within 60 days of a previous test. difficulties with what is being talked up. actions expected to cause badgers to WebSafe Dosage for Adults with Fever Average dosing: A maximum of 650mg every 4-6 hours, or 1000mg every 6-8 hours to be taken orally or rectally. TB/CATTLE/ BADGERS/ PSEUDO-SCIENCE. winter, it is hoped that the results of the disease surveillance and compensation. An extended post-mortem examination carried out on a sample of 205 RBCT badgers revealed substantially more infected animals, approximately double, than did standard post-mortem examination. that a probe is inserted If it were true, then abattoir surveillance would find far more cases. paracetamol, antifreeze and random Bourne not only ignored these culls, which were unlike his, efficient, but has had the audacity to denigrate them. No wonder farmers say They (the Government) dont want us! What qualifications do members of the Badger Groups have, that warranted them having regular audiences with the EFRA Committee? has already been done but if not, linking Webbadgers are being given paracetamol tabs in apples so the wealthy can play golf /erewas golf course in sandiacre derby .have badgers coming on the golfcourse .so local landscape gardner .well known told me he has been drilling holes in apples rolling them down the sets .the badgers eat them .and die in pain over a period of time./all this
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